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August 24, 2005
Tip or Service Charge? Part II
After my previous post on this subject, I received the following email from Gary Reed. He makes some really good points about the difference between a tip and a service charge. Thanks Gary Here is a link to the law which explain that service charges are the property of the employer.
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What a load of nonsense. While it is not explicitly stated, it is implicit in the entire proposal to replace tips with service charges that the staff will be paid more in leiu of tip income. Any restaurant that didn't would quickly find itself without waiters and waitresses. Posted by: Dan Hill at August 24, 2005 11:10 PMCeteris paribus, tipped employees lose if tip transactions between customers and themselves go through an extra step or middle-man. Mr. Reed is correct. I worked at a restaurant as a busser where more than half of my income came from tip-share. Employers profit from service charges because they skim benefits gained by servers through their special relationship with customers. To me it smells of fraud, or at least harnesses a relationship in a way that it historically wasn't intended to be used. Without any hint of bias, however, it could simply be called an attempt toward optimization on the part of restaurant owners, but as Mr Frasca pointed out in his first post it may shake up the market and lead to unfavorable consequences. Posted by: David Rossie at August 25, 2005 12:30 PMIn a competitive market, wages should approximate MPL. So it shouldn't matter who receives the tip. If take home compensation declines because of "skimming" of service charges by owners, waiters with higher MPLs will migrate to restaurants without service charges, or other occupations. Posted by: Josh Hall at August 25, 2005 09:27 PMDan, you stated that what I wrote was a load of nonsense. You went on to state that while it is not explicitly stated, it is implicit in the entire proposal to replace tips with service charges that the staff will be paid more in leiu of tip income. Any restaurant that didn't would quickly find itself without waiters and waitresses. Do you really think the staff, that is the ones who actually receive tips from customers, are going to earn more money when the business owner is allowed to determine who should receive this money customers have been deceived into believing are tips? Busniness owners will distribute the tips to as many workers as they can, if they don't simply keep it for themsleves, so that the business can offer lower wages to all their employees. Is that what tipping is? Giving the business money so that it can pay lower wages to it's employees? I don't think so. Tips are given to an employee with the knowledge that his employer is most likely paying him very little. A tip is in addition to the low wages his employer is most likely paying him. If customers are tricked into paying a service charge instead of a tip the money is legally the business's property to use however the business sees fit. Walmart has a similar set up where the employees are simply paid whatever the business sees fit. Is that what you think service jobs should be turned into? Walmart, even though they pay low wages doesn't seem to have a problem getting and retaining workers. It seems like most businesses in this country are opting to pay lower wages so that they can make more profits for themelves and their CEO's. I think it's a load of nonsense to beleive that if the tip is replaced by a service charge that employee's earnings will increase. The money that was legally the property of the tipped employee will become by law the property of the employer and employees will be left at the mercy of their employer to keep their wages up with inflation. Businesses in our country have shown quite convicingly that they have no concern for keeping wages up with infoation when it cuts into their profits. As far as keeping good workers goes, I don't think most businesses want good workers. They only seem to care about obtaining cheap labor. Look the imigration problem that we are now witnessing. Bussinesses are the biggest lobbiests for allowing illegal imigration. Look at how many business are moving their business to other countries where labor is cheaper. They don't sem to care about having good workers now do they. That's what this service charge crap is all about. Getting cheap workers. If they can take away the tips their current employees are receiving from the public they can utilize those moneys to pay their payroll expenses and increase their earnings. It's really pretty clear cut. Posted by: Gary at August 29, 2005 01:44 PM Sorry, can’t get trackbacks working today. Long post on the tax implications here: |
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